Look at the letter this guy wrote to the Feds about CR

[truthteller]

This guy who is in some organistaion to try to get back funds that were lost in the Villalobos brothers wrote a letter to the US government to stop doing business with CR.

One of the reasons is because Gary Kaplan (Betonsports) who is under investigation in the U.S, contributed to Pacheco's campaign funds.

See the full letter here at:

http://www.classactioncenter.net/11_Sept_2003_-_Break_CAFTA.htm

[This message was edited by truthteller on January 21, 2004 at 05:15 PM.]

 

[SubZaero]

JACK CAINE

APDO 68-1260

Plaza Colonial, Escazu, San José, Costa Rica

Tel. 011 (506) 289 – 9917 Fax. 011 (506) 228 – 8270

Who the phuck is this clown??
I know we are not perfect, we have our flaws just like any other phucking country in the world including the US, so i'm getting phucking tired of americans trashing my country, specially those who live here...
If you don't like it GET THE PHUCK OUT, and if you are not here leave us the phuck alone...
I think you have far more problems to work out than we do, so give it a rest.

 

[wolfie_cr]

I feel for every dime that the investors lost

but in a nutshell, the goverment is after villalobos and they seized a ridiculously small % of what suposely he had in deposit, so what do they expect the goverment to do exactly?

Dont kill me , I simply don't know what is the situation in this problem in particular so I am merely asking/trying to figure out what the deal is

 

[wolfie_cr]

nm , I get it now

this freak even wants the goverment to shut down the sportsbooks

"Operation of on-line sportsbook or gaming houses that are in conflict with the U.S. Patriot and Money Laundering Acts"

I supose that also goes for UK/Australian based sportsbooks or is it just the ones in here that they can bully?

 

[jorzavfa]

As usual punks like that are the ones that just talk before thinking, yes I know that Costa Rica has to many problems that should be fix. But as Subzaaero said if you dont like it why stay there!!

And before start doing so many stupid things he should see what is really happening, cause just today I so an article at the newspaper saying that they still working to help those who invest there but they first need to process these Villalobos Brothers.

instead of bringing Costa Rica down those a zz ho le should help the goverment of costa rica put in jail those guys.

 

[Tablarasa]

If you have actually read his letter, its apparent he thought before talking.

In fact, his research is pretty good.

And he makes some valid points, that of course, will mostly be ignored.

 

[-Slim-]

Might just have to give Mr Caine a call or two..

 

[American]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tablarasa:
If you have actually read his letter, its apparent he thought before talking.

In fact, his research is pretty good.

And he makes some valid points, that of course, will mostly be ignored.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

His research is VERY good. It's going to take a while to sift through it. He makes some very challenging remarks about CRica not having the infrasctructure or the willingness to protect foreign investment. The part about the treaty with the UK that had shit unilaterally added to it by the CR assembly is enlightening. I've been saying it for a while...Costa Rica loves a rigged game.

If the best you pro-CR posters can come up with is "If you don't like it get out (but leave your money)" then you guys are total morons.

 

[sometech]

no American, your the total moron.


It's a good thing you are not here anymore. I would personally hold you down so any TICO could kick your ass.

Your just a pathetic **** who can't get laid here or there. Just **** off and stop trashing Costa Rica. I am a gringo who would happily pumel you for any and all my Tico friends.

Punk asses like you give gringos a bad name.

 

[American]

That's it. I've just held a kangeroo court hearing on you and have convicted you on one count of turning native down in CR (you're one of those Americans that talks trash about the U.S. and his fellow Americans to the delight of his Tico "friends"...I KNOW your kind.)

You have also been found guilty of three counts of ASSHOLE-ISM for laying a foul tongue on me with you generous use of profanity.

You bastard, I sentance you to death by SODOMIZATION by my henchman...Mr. Winkle. www.mrwinkle.com

What's with his tongue? If I had a tongue like that I'd never leave Queen of Hearts house!!!

(Hi, Queen. How are you doing?)

 

[wolfie_cr]

american my version of "If you don't like it get out (but leave your money)" is this

"if you dont like it get the hell out of here and move to florida and then check the rx forum every 5 minutes to bitch about costa rica since you have nothing else to do, if you do like it good luck and help us make it a better place"

how is that?

 

[SubZaero]

American
What happened to you here? Did some $50 whore at Del Rey gave you the clap and stole the other $50 you had to bet/?
Too bad... you gotta thank God you are back in "heaven" (lol) and leave us alone with our misery don't you think? you ignorant redneck...

Wolfie...
Very well put buddy...

 

[jorzavfa]

what american dont know is that all of this shit that happen with the vault, the brothers and ofinter or saving limited only a few costaricans where involved cause the ones that came up with the ideas of this kind of bussiness were gringos and cubanos not ticos. The ticos just put their names to get some money but the scammers where the others

 

[American]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Draco:
what american dont know is that all of this shit that happen with the vault, the brothers and ofinter or saving limited only a few costaricans where involved cause the ones that came up with the ideas of this kind of bussiness were gringos and cubanos not ticos. The ticos just put their names to get some money but the scammers where the others<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Ticos that were involved were Ticos that had money invested with them (the brothers) and the Costa Rican government.

The CR government allowed this ponzi to go on for 20 years or so. The brothers made large campaign "contributions" to current and past govt. officials, including the current president. They knew damn well about the operation and were up to their eyeballs in it. When it came time to screw everybody, they allowed him to leave with the money, except the token $7 million that they seized.

The brothers operation had Tico investors as well as Costa Rican companies that had money with them. You don't hear them complaining about getting ripped off. That's because they didn't. The brothers paid all the Tico investors their money back. I personally know this to be true. The ones that got f*cked were the ones that were f*ckable...the foreigners. If they raise a big enough fuss, the CR government can just throw them out of the country, or even throw them in jail as they've done with one American gentleman who wasn't happy about losing his money. He hasn't even been charged yet. Costa Rica is a country that can throw you in jail without even charging you! Give me a f*cking break.

 

[American]

www.mrwinkle.com Mr. Winkle makes Lassy look like a child pornographer.

 

[WildBill]

What an unbelievable joke this is. Mexico nationalized American and British oil interests. Mexico doesn't allow any legitimate competition in the telecommunications market. Mexico won't look after foreigners investments if it turns out a corrupt court ruling is at fault. Mexico won't allow foreigners to own land in certain parts of the country, in clear contravention of almost any bilateral investment treaty there is. I don't think I even need to start going into the obvious corruption problems the government has in spots.

Plain and simple you could make a lot of these arguments and apply them to Mexico, yet they are our 2nd or 3rd largest trade partner. We aren't pulling out of NAFTA because of these issues, what makes this buffoon think the US will make CR a pariah state for such minimal and commonplace transgressions? And it is all cover for the guy blatantly ignoring the obvious caveat emptor that everyone must live by when they invest in a foreign country.

 

[American]

If seems too good to be true, than it probably is. That's certainly the bottom line for the brothers fiasco. The CR government was involved though. I'll be surprised if anything comes of that letter. It was a hell of a letter though.

 

[jorzavfa]

In every country there are problems of corruption even the less thing as you American can recall ur big president was caught with another lady and there are many more...

If the Costa Rican Goberment was involved in this fraud is not my problem, cause I know they are trying to search were the money comes from and where the money was going in order to give the money back and after the trial.

But what I dont understand is why (and is not personal cause I got friends who invest there) any person will invest in something that you dont even know or something that is going to give you more of what u can imagine without doing a little research before, whos that stupid. Im saying this because in the past and not even in CR, in USA or other countries u can find exactly the same examples of this situations, how can U that are supposed to know more invest in the same scams.

Be careful next time and not a fool, think where u are going to put ur money, do a little research, dont be greedy or stupid. And regarding of the kind of research this guy made in order to write his letter, well I dont think use his brain cause this got nothing to do with trades or economy, it just got to do with investigations, and trials, thats why the money havent being return.

And regarding the money that the presindent received for his campaing, well many sportsbook owners, and many other people gave money not only to him, to all the parties at that time.

Just dont talk for talking use ur brains, the problem and the beginnings of this and more investigations were made by ticos not by gringos, and were ticos from the other parties just to bring more controversy to this president. But yeah I care what happen in Costa Rica, but I try to help things be better not to slow down or destroy a country that what only do is received all of u and give u a peacefull country. With problems yes but all countries have them

 

[American]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Draco:



But what I dont understand is why (and is not personal cause I got friends who invest there) any person will invest in something that you dont even know or something that is going to give you more of what u can imagine without doing a little research before, whos that stupid. Im saying this because in the past and not even in CR, in USA or other countries u can find exactly the same examples of this situations, how can U that are supposed to know more invest in the same scams.



And regarding the money that the presindent received for his campaing, well many sportsbook owners, and many other people gave money not only to him, to all the parties at that time.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are right on the money about the campaign contributions.

Whenever I ask some of those "investors" why they thought it wasn't a scam they invariably all say the same thing. "How could it be a scam if it's been going on for 20 years?" they'll say as they shake their heads. That was the genious of the scam. The fact that they built it up over 20 years is what gave it instant credibility in the simple minds of the "investors", who felt they had to dig no further.

 

[jorzavfa]

Are u sure it was going on for 20 years??? Cause actually the first office in San Jose I think was open on 1995, and if you read the newspapers u are gonna see that others just last 8 years, and for sure, does anybody to a background research???

No i dont think so!!